pork chops, grits-broccoli-cheese casserole, celery & green onions smothered in turkey broth.. oh, frabjous day, calloo callay!.
or, something like that.. tee hee hee..
What a wonderful meal, snowbird! And what a wonderful grandson he is to make it for you. Well done! You raised yo' yunguns right!
I feel sorry for those po' Yankees who don't know the exquisite delight of grits in the morning. Nothing is better, especially if you stir in scrambled or sunny side up eggs and eat them as one dish. Mmm mmm... heaven on earth!
there's a jw 'sister' at work, lovely girl in her mid twenties.
anyway, on monday the union (cwu) called a one day strike in support of colleagues and all union members supported the action as far as i'm aware, except the sister.. she claimed it was 'against her religion' to strike.
bare in mind, she's a fee paying member of the union.. now, a few of my workmates know of my past and asked me if this was really true, that jehovah's witnesses aren't allowed to strike.. we'll, i like this girl and i didn't want to make her look silly but what was i supposed to say after i stopped laughing?
As far as I know, the Society has never said JWs can't be in a labor union. Participating in a strike, however, would depend on the circumstances, even if the JW planned only to honor the strike but not picket or do anything else controversial.
Some strikes are illegal, and a "True Christian™" would not honor those because it would be against the law. I personally know of one JW who was an air traffic controller when their union (PATCO) went on strike in 1981. He did not honor the strike and continued to report to work as usual. The union did not give him any trouble, though, because he had told them well in advance that he wouldn't go with them and why. It was not because it was "against his religion." It was because (1) the strike was illegal and (2) he had signed a sworn oath (like all government employees) when he was first hired that he would not participate in any strike against the government. The union essentially gave him a pass on it because he was straight with them from the beginning and he didn't work against them by discouraging others either.
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/did-you-know-having-children/#comment-474.
here's the short article found in the "did you know?
" series found on watchtower documents, and, underneath it, is the unusual comment:.
I think LongHairGal is onto something. With all the emphasis on shunning family members who reject the Truth©, whether baptized or not, the clear message is that they should be considered already dead. "Don't even pick up the phone if they call or text out of the blue, no matter how long it's been since you heard from them. It doesn't matter that they may be in mortal danger or seriously ill. You don't know, and you don't want to know."
It naturally follows that you wouldn't want to encourage or facilitate their immoral lifestyles by giving them money, or even leaving it to them in your will. "How much better, Brothers and Sisters, to use your valuable things to further Kingdom interests. Jehovah needs your money! Give it to us, and uh..., we'll be sure he gets it."
i just happened to read a news article from some months ago about doctors having performed a successful penis transplant.
the recipient lost his due to cancer, and doctors expect him to gain full use of his "new" penis, including sexual activities.
considering some of the more goofy interpretations of doctrine that the gooberning body trots out that the rank and file must obey under penalty of shunning i wonder if a man had this surgery, would he and or his wife be df'd for adultery?
I agree that this thread is mainly about poking fun at the Society for their ridiculous rules and interpretations, but _Morpheus makes a valid point.
The Society extrapolates all kinds of rules and policies and even doctrines based on stories and laws and customs from the Old Testament (Hebrew Scriptures). In the "Israelite days," there was something called brother-in-law marriage. If a man died childless, his brother (or some other male relative) was duty bound to impregnate his widow, and the child would be considered the offspring of the dead man. All perfectly legal and aboveboard. No stigma whatsoever. Just how things were done.
But today, when it comes to surrogacy or infertility treatments like IVF or sperm or egg donation, the Society calls it adultery. WTF? The intent is the same: helping someone have the child they desire so much. Brother-in-law marriage involved actual intercourse, probably repeatedly over a period of time. Modern day methods are much more clinical and do not run such a risk of emotional entanglement and the betrayal of a mate (which is how most would define adultery).
To equate something as compassionate as helping another have a child with adultery is cold-hearted and legalistic on its face. To do so in abject defiance of scriptural precedent is hypocritical for religious leaders who put such stock in Old Testament "type and antitype." When you consider that even they concede that brother-in-law marriage was a "divine arrangement," it seems blasphemous to decree that the modern day direct parallel is a sin. That's placing their judgment above God's, in effect overruling him. What chutzpah! It's arrogance of the highest order.
They are saying that the gift of one's DNA through sperm or egg donation, or even a surrogate's carrying of a married couple's own genetic fetus to term because the wife is unable to do so, is adultery. But brother-in-law marriage, which involved actual intercourse, was not. This completely ignores scriptural precedent, or Biblical principle, as they like to call it.
This policy is just one thing that proves to me that the Truth© is certainly NOT the truth, and the Society is nothing more than a mind-control cult that's perfectly willing to pronounce edicts that affect millions on the flimsiest of notions and the most specious of reasons. It's all about power and control, not what's right, or even what's best for the flock.
http://watchtowerdocuments.org/did-you-know-having-children/#comment-474.
here's the short article found in the "did you know?
" series found on watchtower documents, and, underneath it, is the unusual comment:.
I never experienced this nonsense myself, but one of my cousins used to complain that she and her husband were relentlessly grilled by an elder in their congregation. He could be very intrusive, repeatedly asking if they were being "careful" (using birth control) to avoid any unpleasant surprises this close to the End™.
Anyway, life happens, and lo and behold, she gets pregnant. Once their precious daughter is born, this nosy old elder suddenly becomes the world's most enthusiastic "grandfather." I mean, in the best possible way. Nothing dark at all. He and his wife practically "adopted" her. If good li'l JW's believed in having god-parents, they would have jumped at the chance.
This BS policy was one of the first things that made me question the Truth©. Other things that arose over time proved for a certainty that it is just another money-grubbing mind-control cult. Rutherford had one thing right: religion IS a snare and a racket!
i live in fort worth.
for a time, so did serial murderer henry howard holmes.henry, as a young medical student in 1861, was a future serial killer.
did he know his destiny?
What a coincidence! The article below from the Washington Post appeared in today's Union Leader, NH's leading newspaper. I tried to post a copy of the article exactly as it appeared in the paper, but that failed multiple times, so here it is converted to simple text. If anyone's interested, PM me and I'll email you a PDF of the article as it appeared in the paper (Sunday, May 7, 2017).
Serial killer from Gilmanton to be dug up to prove his identity
By TRAVIS M. ANDREWS
Washington Post
The three-story hotel in downtown Chicago known as the “Castle” was by all appearances just another place for tourists to stay during the 1893 World’s Fair except for one thing: Many young women entered through its doors but not that many left. Or so neighbors would later recall.
For years, its owner, Dr. H.H. Holmes — born Herman Webster Mudgett in Gilmanton, N.H.— had invited people, mostly young women, into the hotel he designed, promising jobs and lodging while hinting that he was a wealthy man seeking a bride.
What no one knew was Holmes didn’t merely design a hotel. He fashioned a labyrinthine house of horrors, a “Murder Castle” with trap doors, peepholes and stairways that led nowhere. Many of its 100 or more rooms were soundproof. Others included gas lines, which allowed Holmes to fill the rooms with gas to easily asphyxiate guests, according to the Crime Museum.
The basement was equipped with a dissecting table, stretching rack and crematory. Holmes would deliver fresh corpses to this makeshift morgue by dropping them down chutes positioned around the hotel. He would then either dissolve them in acid or strip them of their skin and organs — and sell the skeletons to medical schools (obscuring their origins).
Eventually, he was caught and tried in Pennsylvania.
Herman Mudgett was born on May 16, 1860, in Gilmanton. His parents were devout Methodists; his father and grandfather were farmers. The boy “spent a good deal of time alone in his room reading Jules Verne and Edgar Allan Poe and inventing things,” according to Erik Larson’s best-selling book about Holmes, “The Devil in the White City.”
Larson described Mudgett/ Holmes as “a small, odd, and exceptionally bright boy.” His only close childhood friend, he wrote, “was killed in a fall while the boys were playing in an abandoned house.”
No one knows how many people Holmes killed. He admitted to 28, but some believe the number exceeded 200.
“I was born with the devil in me,” he said while confessing, according to History. “I could not help the fact that I was a murderer, no more than a poet can help the inspiration to sing.”
For these crimes, Holmes was sentenced to death.
He was hanged in Pennsylvania in 1896. That’s how the story goes. But maybe that wasn’t all, after all.
For more than a century, rumors persisted that Holmes, also a highly skilled con man, managed to avoid his hanging via trickery.
Now, at the behest of Holmes’s great-grandchildren, who hope to finally quell such rumors, his remains are being exhumed from the Holy Cross Cemetery in Yeadon, Pa., the Associated Press reported.
John and Richard Mudgett and Cynthia Mudgett Soriano submitted DNA samples to the University of
Pennsylvania, where a DNA analysis will be performed. The remains will then be reinterred in the grave, regardless of whether they turn out to belong to Holmes.
They are not commenting on the exhumation at this time.
The rumors began after Holmes’s body was snugly in the ground, Adam Selzer wrote in “H.H. Holmes: The True History of the White City Devil.”
Robert Latimer, a man Holmes had confessed to killing but who was very much alive, told reporters Holmes hadn’t been hanged. Instead, Latimer contended, Holmes convinced his prison guards he was innocent, and they chose to help him.
Wrote Selzer: They’d brought in a fake body and hidden it behind a partition below the scaffold. When Holmes was brought out to be hanged, the guards had formed a semicircle around him, momentarily blocking the view of the smaller-than-usual number of reporters and jurymen while (the executioner) pretended to bind his arms and put the hood over his head. In those few crucial seconds, the hooded substitute body was raised behind the semicircle, and Holmes himself slipped away to be smuggled out in a casket. The guards had propped up the hooded dead body for a moment before hanging it.
Local newspapers wrote up this account, quoting Latimer as saying, “H.H. Holmes was never hanged in Philadelphia. He cheated the gallows, and is today alive and well and growing coffee at San Paramaribo, Paraguay, South America.”
“This was quite a popular story at the time,” author Matt Lake told NBC Chicago. “A cynical person might say this was just designed to sell more newspapers, and it did sell newspapers.”
Furthermore, it was more difficult than usual to verify the identity of his corpse after burial. When he was sentenced to death, Holmes had a strange request, which was granted. He wanted to be buried in a pine box filled with wet cement that would dry and encapsulate his body. Once he was lowered in the ground, four barrels of cement were poured on top of the coffin, Selzer wrote.
“If somebody went to check later, they couldn’t verify that it was his body,” Lake said.
More than century later, though, that’s no longer a problem. Soon, the world will know if Holmes was actually hanged and buried in Pennsylvania.
Many, though, don’t feel the need to await a DNA test. Among them is Erik Larson, who wrote about Holmes in his 2003 bestselling book “The Devil in the White City.”
“I have absolute confidence the body in that grave is Holmes,” Larson said.
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Herman Webster Mudgett, better known under the name of Dr. Henry Howard Holmes or more commonly H. H. Holmes, was one of the first documented serial killers in the modern sense of the term. WIKIPEDIA
watchtower insisted that members be "approved" by their rbc before going to the disaster area.
she told me how she went with her husband on that bus and a few other wives of other rbc workers went also.
she told me how their two children went with them on that bus.
I know for a fact that the RBC "brothers" were supposed to inquire if the homeowners they helped had insurance, and if they did, they were ask them to donate the insurance payment to the "world-wide work" so they could "help others who don't have insurance." Of course, the donations were not to be ear-marked for relief work. They were supposed to go into the Society's general funds to be used as the Society saw fit. Absolutely no accountability.
I know this because my brother-in-law was a long time elder and RBC overseer and he confirmed this in a private conversation. When I raised my eyebrows in surprise that it really was true, he just resignedly shrugged his shoulders. He did add that they would go ahead and do the work even if the homeowner said they couldn't agree to sign over their insurance money. Mighty big of 'em, I say...
lovecraft is a master of horror.what you will find below is a very short story.
i have written it.i was 'drunk on lovecraft' when i crafted it.it is pure horror and blasphemy.
only ex-jw's can perhaps fully grasp the depth of the horror...click on the link:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b6a8sp5_psf-d2fktejjwwjrt28/view?usp=sharing.
Never mind. I found it. You posted it right here on JWN about two years ago. I liked it, though I admit it's a kinda out there (weird) and the (purposely antiquated) language is a bit difficult to follow. Still, it was nice to read it again. Thanks for reminding us of it.
FYI, the version you posted on here directly is much easier to read than the one on Google Drive. The font is easier on the eyes and the characters are a much deeper black.
lovecraft is a master of horror.what you will find below is a very short story.
i have written it.i was 'drunk on lovecraft' when i crafted it.it is pure horror and blasphemy.
only ex-jw's can perhaps fully grasp the depth of the horror...click on the link:https://drive.google.com/file/d/0b6a8sp5_psf-d2fktejjwwjrt28/view?usp=sharing.
Hi Terry! This tale seems awfully familiar. Did you post it here before? Maybe several years ago?
last week we had a reassurance ultrasound with our ob.
she was just supposed to check heartbeats on the two little ones and they were going strong!
but because she had extra time and she can be quite anal about her work (which is a good thing) she decided to take some measurements.
So sorry for your loss, Darkknight. You have many friends here sending best wishes and "positive energy" your way. You and your dear wife are not alone.
